She thought my side beat up on her side way more often, that we called them brainless, gun toting racists, and we both marveled at the labels that fit none of the people we actually know.

So June 1945 actually, the bomb hasn't even been dropped yet and Von Neumann is putting together all the theory to actually build this thing, which also goes back to Turing, who, before that, gave the idea that you could do all this with a very brainless, little, finite state machine, just reading a tape in and reading a tape out.