Campbell's made Prego, and Prego, in the early '80s, was struggling next to Ragu, which was the dominant spaghetti sauce of the '70s and '80s.

Ovecha Rague festival in San Miguel, Paraguay.

The quality of the tomato paste is much better the spice mix is far superior it adheres to the pasta in a much more pleasing way. In fact, they would do the famous bowl test back in the '70s with Ragu and Prego.

But it was, technically speaking this is an aside Prego is a better tomato sauce than Ragu.

And the Ragu would all go to the bottom, and the Prego would sit on top.

And that's when you started to get seven different kinds of vinegar, and 14 different kinds of mustard, and 71 different kinds of olive oil and then eventually even Ragu hired Howard, and Howard did the exact same thing for Ragu that he did for Prego.

And today, if you go to the supermarket, a really good one, and you look at how many Ragus there are do you know how many they are? 36!

Last November, Rajo Devi, a 70 year old Indian woman, became the world s oldest mother, thanks to IVF.

When we talked about authentic tomato sauce in the 1970s, we talked about Italian tomato sauce. We talked about the earliest ragus, which had no visible solids, right?

And for years and years and years and years, Ragu and Prego would have focus groups, and they would sit all you people down, and they would say, What do you want in a spaghetti sauce? Tell us what you want in a spaghetti sauce.