I was thinking about what Moshe Safdie said yesterday about beauty because in his book, Hyde says that sometimes trickster can tip over into beauty.

And then coming to this conference, I realized that most everybody here shared those same qualities because really what trickster is is an agent of change.

And I was sort of, as I was starting to analyze what exactly it is that I do, I read a book called Trickster Makes This World, by Lewis Hyde.

Philosopher comedian Emily Levine talks about science, math, society and the way everything connects. She's a brilliant trickster, poking holes in our fixed ideas and bringing hidden truths to light. Settle in and let her ping your brain.

That, and I will say this to the scientists, that the trickster has the ability to hold his ideas lightly so that he can let room in for new ideas or to see the contradictions or the hidden problems with his ideas.