I think very different from some of the morning sessions, which you had such a kind of very clear, such a lineal idea,

I can start any number of places, because this process is also I think very different from some of the morning sessions, which you had such a kind of very clear, such a lineal idea, like the last one, say, with Howard, that I think the creative process in architecture, the design process, is extremely circuitous. It's labyrinthine.