Layma said to me later, It's a taboo, you know, in West Africa.

So I go, You know, why don't we go on the Internet, and maybe we can see ... like on Wikipedia.

So I kind of said, Oh, it's this extra ingredient, you know, that you need to create a new frog from the mom and dad frog.

IM You read about all these people who have a lot of money and they have kids and the kids always end up somehow, like, really messed up, you know what I mean?

We have, a few months ago, actually late last year, we had a few mothers who came to us and said, You know, we want to learn how to read and write.

I went on to Bosnia, and early on in my interviews I met with an IMF official who said, You know, Gayle, I don't think we actually have women in business in Bosnia, but there is a lady selling cheese nearby on the side of the road.

And another counselor said to me after the training, You know, I never knew why I survived the killings in my village, but now I know, because I am part of a nucleus of a new peaceful society in Afghanistan.